/> For two years in succession, you have clinched both the Best Music and Best Background Music Screen trophies. What do you have to say about this unique achievement?
I always feel that nothing can be planned, and sometimes things just fall into place! Just a few years ago, a lot of things seemed to be going off-track.

Mani Ratnam's Lajjo, Shyam Benegal's Chamki and Krishna Shah's Baiju and one or two other musicals were wonderful subjects that inspired me then - and none of them even took off! On the other hand, Jaane Tu...Ya Jaane Na that got me your Best Music trophy this year was almost shelved - till Aamir Khan took over its production.

Last year, a lot of my films came all together - Jaane Tu..., Jodhaa Akbar, Yuvvraaj, the music of Ada, Ghajini and then Slumdog Millionaire. So I have stopped expecting anything in life. If good things happen, it's okay, but if they don't, at least you are not frustrated! (Laughs).

Do two background music trophies indicate that the background score is gaining more importance nowadays?
Background music is something that needs ten times more energy than making songs. You can do songs for four more films in the time you take for composing a background music score for just one movie!

In the West, they are amazed that in Indian films the same person composes both the songs and the background score. But over here, whether it was Naushadsaab in Hindi films, Ilayaraja down here or most other composers, we have had this tradition almost as a culture.

Speaking for myself, I like to do both and it is about my credibility and sometimes when I get both right, it is a great high for me!

Why do you use the word "sometimes"? Why are you so modest, almost Bachchan-esquely so, in your statements?
I have so much to learn and so much to achieve. And things can go wrong despite hard work so often. You can't orchestrate results and the magic just happens sometimes. When it does, every aspect of the film and the music blends together, sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally!

Gulzarsaab tells us that you light a candle when your singer enters the recording cabin. Have you always done this?
I began to do it after my first visit to Khwaja Gharib Nawaz at Ajmer Sharif. The candles lit there have an effect I cannot describe. In my studio too, it is so inspirational and organic amidst all the electronic gadgets.

And coming to Slumdog Millionaire, a cliché that you will have to answer again for us, Did you expect the film and your songs to reach where they have?
No way! (Laughs). But yes, I loved the film when I watched it. All I was thinking about is that I wanted to work with a filmmaker as loved and respected as Danny Boyle. There was something strangely positive about the film - I remember feeling inexplicably relieved at the end of the movie.

So you worked on the music after the film was complete.
Yes and after putting in the songs Danny re-cut the film.

How did you get the idea of working with M.I.A.?
I find her an extraordinary artiste who makes political statements with her music.

Some years back, she had come down to record her music at my studio because she needed some specific kind of percussion and had expressed a wish to work with me then because she liked the energy in my music. At that time, I was busy. But when this opportunity arose, I naturally took it.

How do you react to Indians slamming Jai ho as nowhere compared to your best songs, even though its versions abroad have rocked charts too?
Well, I had to make something that was right for the film. It wasn't a situation that demanded a Beethoven's Symphony or a Ba-ba black sheep!

Composing for films is not about showing the world what you can do. You have to get something right first and then try and excel in it. The reverse way would be disastrous.

The other criticism is that you have reworked Choli ke peeche from Khal-Nayak as Ringa ringa. But despite the story you gave to a section of the press, it just had a similar flavour.
I was misquoted in that story - I never said that I was remixing the song. I only said that I was influenced by that song as the most important anthem of the 1990s, which is the era being shown when Ringa ringa is playing in the film.

That was the reason why I chose not to compose a completely diverse song for this situation and also why I took the same singers - Alka Yagnik and Ila Arun. It was my ode to Laxmikant-Pyarelal, Subhash Ghai and the song's team.

And what were your first thoughts when you won first one trophy and then another - and we do not mean the words you spoke at the Oscar ceremony where you also have to keep in mind the audience?
I was extremely happy that my mother, my wife and my sister Ishrat, who is a singer, were all there with me.

Such occasions are less about personal happiness and more about what precious people around you, especially your family and friends, feel.

My first thought when the first award was announced was nothing - my mind went blank since I was due to sing in some 20 seconds! (Laughs) When the second award was declared, I just wanted to take the trophy, go into my room and sleep!! (Laughs again). The one week of anticipation, rehearsals and tensions all dissolved into that!

And what do you feel - sorry again for the clichéd query - about being the first Indian to clinch two Oscars?
I can't gauge anything now - maybe I will know after a couple of years. Let's see what good things come out of it.

A lot of new composers have come in of late. Have any of them impressed you?
I like their spirit and also their desire to experiment. At the same time, however, I miss excellent melodies and life- changing lyrics in today's music and I am looking forward to hearing some of those.

Lyrics, for example, should be much more than about Soniye and Maahiya! The new music directors must also realise that it is a team that consolidates your work - you need a director who understands you.

Ismail Darbar got one in Sanjay Leela Bhansali and Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy in Farhan Akhtar. A composer cannot be like an island. The director has a huge hand in decisions about both creativity and also dignity - dignity about what you should and should not do, about a mission for reviving something good and other firm convictions.